[rwallace]

I hope so, because I actively want seconds absent from the system tray. Attention is a scarce resource; the fewer things on the screen constantly changing and thereby consuming my attention, the better. If saving power means we remain free from that anti-feature, great.

[aksss]

I, for one, love it for casual and incidental benchmarking. Of everything - not just a process I run, but also how long between bird chirps outside my window. But I also find it very easy to ignore, too. Glad it’s optional.

[Asraelite]

Does nobody care about just being able to tell the time accurately? 59 seconds makes a big difference for joining online meetings and things.

[rwallace]

Beware of concentrated benefit and diffuse cost. Sure, let a seconds clock be available to call up the 0.1% of the time when you want it. But it shouldn't be in the system tray presenting a small but ongoing attention drain the other 99.9% of the time.

[technothrasher]

As a horologist, I want seconds. It annoys me not to have it. I wouldn't care if it isn't the default, as long as I can set it, similarly to how I currently have to set 24-hour time separately on all my machines because the US locale defaults to 12-hour time. That's fine, and understandable. But I'm constantly annoyed, for instance, by Apple's long running absolute refusal to allow the iOS clock to display seconds.

[perching_aix]

The attention drain is sadly pretty much unmeasurable properly, as it's a subjective thing.

I'm one of those freaks who have this on and I honestly like it a lot. It gives me a feeling of certainty, grounding, and precision.

Primary driver for turning it on was their redesign of the clock flyout to be, uhh, nonexistent with Windows 11, which I'd previously use on demand for seconds information. I was also worried about this being a nonsolution and a distraction initially, but it ended up being fine.

[nottorp]

Interesting, do you also turn off notification popups for all applications, or leave those on?

[rwallace]

I leave a handful of actually important notifications on, like the one that says 'someone just made a purchase using your bank account, making sure it was you', but most of them, I do indeed turn off.

[bigstrat2003]

Approximately zero people in the world care if you join a meeting at 1:00, or 1:01. It's good to aim to be punctual, but if you're off by a minute there is no consequence.

[crazygringo]

That is definitely not true. It's very dependent on the culture, the company, the specific group.

I've met managers who literally lock the conference room door when it hits :00.

That's a little crazy in my view, but there are definitely places where it's the norm.

There are basically two ways of managing expectations around meeting times. The first is that it's acceptable for meetings to run late, so it's normal and tolerated for people to be late to their next meeting, and meetings often start something like 5 minutes late, and you try to make sure nothing really important gets discussed until 10 minutes in. The other is that it's unacceptable for meetings to start late, so people always leave the previous meeting early to make sure they have time for bathroom, emergency emails, etc. In which case important participants wind up leaving before a decision gets made, which is a whole problem of its own.

[argomo]

I'm curious how you came to such a universally sweeping conclusion. At any rate, it's incorrect as I have personally observed counterexamples in my professional career.

[yawaramin]

Companies where people care that you join a meeting just one minute late? Sounds kind of unbelievable tbh. Humans are humans.

[_9ptr]

No and No, it doesn't.

[erikpukinskis]

I just say “one one thousand two one thousand…” under my breath.

[userbinator]

Ideally the clock display should be customisable to display whatever level of precision you want; I believe at least one Linux application lets you specify it via a strftime() format string.

[pramodbiligiri]

KDE Plasma provides custom time formats: https://postimg.cc/sGXD8wqq. The time format documentation from that screenshot links to QT's formatDateTime function: https://doc.qt.io/archives/qt-5.15/qml-qtqml-qt.html#formatD...

[userbinator]

That's already more customisation than most software will allow, but to paraphrase an old saying, "those who don't understand strftime() are doomed to reinvent it poorly":

https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/functions/st...