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by lastcat743 336 days ago
> In your parlance, in order for there to be "no contradiction or embellishment" between your "Truth" and your "truth" there must be an isomorphic mapping between what entities you deem exist and the symbols you use to reason about them.

You play a childish game with your token of thoughts.

Now is not the springy knoll to discuss the nature and virtue of all things.

I declare my way “simple truths” and whose goal is to “undeceive the self as to the nature of existential reality.”

It is true there is an ontological chain established these medium for communicative protocol, yet you are pretentious and vacant when pointing this out without utility.

You do not undermine my point by saying “words are symbols and distinctions between the terminal and non-terminal, the signified and the signifier,” and so on.

Pardon your ignorance for your learnings are incomplete; you literally advocating gaslighting ourselves rather than explore existential truths.

Existential reality exists, only that which perturbs existence is existential, period. And only how without contrivance is good science, period. No matter how much you (Man) are intimate with your thoughts and conclusions, those are the symbolic non-truths.

Existential reality is true Truth. The sole and exclusive domain of interest for “science”, anything else is fantasy. Even well respected theoretical stuff, is objectively fantasy. However optimistic a handmaiden to discovery.

> Furthermore, there must be a logical law of noncontradiction upon which you will erect the notion of things, categories, and concepts.

I believe you stumble for “identity” and “attribute”. I still remember Aristotle making this distinction very clear to me while reading his works as a teenager.

As far as “law”, watch yourself. That is how Men lie in the most honest possible way. They confuse Truth (and therefore “truths”) as confined to the horizon of their ignorance. Your “laws” are crib rules to keep your lines straight.

Modern information theory is a lie and will be mocked for generations to come. How the smartest people of the western world could think existential reality was built upon state (“information”) rather than the (obvious) potential distributing as state (potential resolving to state in the moment of now.) Entropy is the existential phenomena of potential distributing over the infinite expanse of negative potential, not a footnote of thermodynamics and a prop for loss in their models. I tell you modern science is as much a cult of delusion as astrology six thousand years ago.

> We need not fear embellishment, the most successful physical theories involve forms of existence that are unlike anything related to the human experience, and there was never any reason to think they would be otherwise.

Enjoy your exotic shit man, it’s good for the mind and spirit. It is not existential Truth, and when you confuse this you become a part of the lie!

> I have no idea what repeating the word truth does to prove a point.

Those are two different words btw, “true” (a presumed validated symbolic reference) and “Truth” (some perturbation [even displacement] of existential reality.)

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I think the difference between you and I is that I am trained to adopt whatever ontology I must in order to understand the subtlety and nuance of various physical theories, without experiencing existential angst or cognitive dissonance. My education did not infect me with epistemology disease.

In case you want to understand the differences further, your "Truth" is to me a figment of your imagination; to be quite clear the existance of an objective physical reality is not a given, the error of insisting the opposite is an enormous failure of imagination, and imagination is more important than intelligence.

The Zoroastrians (and other ancient cultures) equated fire to the language of God for it is a language of Truth.

Illuminant flame, dispeller of darkness and delusion, ignorance and confusion. Revelation of existential Truths from the void of nothing in mind’s eye.

Say what you say of my Truth to fire. Men, through all their self professed wisdoms may deceive themselves very far. Let fire be a limit to how far you may scoff upon Truths in your haughty intellectual scheme.

You've been taught what to think, not how to think.
The opposite silly man. I have traveled the world, studied the past 10,000 years of humanity through casual self interest. Climbed tiers of modern success (money, profession), taken my ten years to reflect and now share something that even your fellow intellectual has not fully decoded for themselves; and you say this to me.

You’re very sad to let your pride get in the way of your learning. There are more wonders, you will find and process them. This one is a lost leader. Amend your epistemological ladder (potential then state [Truth] then perception and interpretation (“truth” or “truthiness” depending on the quality of the mind) and move on

There is an art and utility to the newly emerging ways of thought. We have all been working upon these same problems (separately and together) for a very long time. You have not cracked this one.

What I say is “truth before Law.” When it comes time to end men’s lives and take away the casual liberties of people among civilization, we must turn to Law. Law must exclusively rely upon true Truth, not thoughts feelings and beliefs, no matter how articulate and systematic.

And pray (to whatever you will) that Law only ever accepts true Truth (existential reality) for wicked clever men have been know to bury even the most honest beneath the words of convincing lies.

“Those who can lie more convincingly the the honest could ever hope to tell the truth.” Such have always existed among us.

The true Truth is an accurate rendering of some aspect of existential reality. Everything else is a fiction or lie.

I insist on only accepting the true true Truth not your paltry double truth, I have the truest truth of all Truth.
Only existential reality is Truth.