[octopoc]

It assigns agency to the person who died.

Think about it this way: I have relative who is vegan, so she has been trying to convince me to kill myself for many years now.

I can still choose whether I do it though, and obviously I chose not to so far, although during COVID I didn’t have much other social interaction, so I nearly went through with it.

I had agency throughout though. I’m not dead because I chose not to go through with it.

That’s the difference.

[marliechiller]

whats veganism got to do with comitting suicide?

[octopoc]

Many vegans think everyone else is evil/demonic for eating meat. “Meat is murder” etc etc. So the natural conclusion to that is, according to several vegans I know, that everyone who eats meat should be forced to either stop being a mass murderer or kill themselves.

Keep in mind there was a point where I was vegan, I know several vegans, so I know what I’m talking about.

They’re not shy about it either—look up That Vegan Teacher on YouTube for relatively middle-of-the-road vegan behavior in action.

[marliechiller]

I was vegan for 3 years and never came across this ideology. Maybe you got caught in some weird algorithms or something

[nosefrog]

I was vegan for 7 years, one of my vegan friends had the opinion that human hospitals should be banned and only animal hospitals should be allowed.

[Ray20]

Mental illnesses usually occur in conjunction with other mental illnesses.

[wat10000]

Comparing nagging from a relative to wrongful prosecution is asinine. You might as well say that you had heartburn and it didn't kill you, so what's with all these people dying from heart attacks?

[lokeg]

What?

[octopoc]

Agency is the ability to act. If someone dies against their own will, they don’t have agency, which is why we don’t use language like “they committed their own death” to refer to such instances.