[snickerdoodle12]

Insane how HN cheers on piracy nowadays, all because it helps them train their LLMs

[hombre_fatal]

This isn’t about training LLMs at all.

Also, HN like the rest of the world was always pro-piracy and getting the fruits of your labor without paying for it.

The only time I’ve seen anti-piracy comments has been been wrt LLM training. Suddenly people pretend to care but it feels performative.

[GuinansEyebrows]

i wonder if you're considering the huge difference between:

- individuals pirating copies of things for sole consumption or relatively-miniscule distribution; and

- large highly-funded institutions that pirate content for the sole purpose of generating revenue from it

...and why that might lead people to feel differently about one and the other (not to mention the outsized punitive response to the former compared to the latter).

[artninja1988]

I only see comments complaining about imaginary property "violations" on ai threads funnily enough.

[xboxnolifes]

I don't think HN was ever much against piracy. At least not personal use piracy.

[slim]

IMHO the whole annas archive is a false flag op by a major AI startup

[CamperBob2]

The evolution of intelligence and its intersection with universal access to knowledge is more important than copyright.

To the extent copyright interests want to pick a fight with AI, they must lose, and decisively so.

[hollerith]

Lots of things are more important than the evolution of intelligence. This blind faith in technological progress is becoming grossly incompatible with the interests of ordinary people.

[CamperBob2]

TBH, I'm not super impressed with "ordinary people" lately. Most of the time, I don't spare "ordinary people" a thought. Lately, I have, though. The thought is primarily something along the lines of, "How can these people be stopped before they hose us all?"

[hollerith]

The only sector of our society that needs to be stopped before they hose us all is the AI labs IMHO.

[GuinansEyebrows]

maybe not the only... but they're certainly nontrivial in that distinction

[hollerith]

My "only" is an exaggeration, but the AI labs are definitely the societal force I'm most worried about. If they were closed down or some talented person figures out how to control AIs (so they stay controlled even if the become more capable than us) I'd be fairly optimistic about humanity's future.

[MisterTea]

Information wants to be free.