[lawlessone]

The man literally got punched out of the whitehouse for substance abuse lol

His children break contact with him moment they become adults. If it wasn't for the money he would have been forbidden to see them long ago.

Everyone hates him on the left and the right.

If you consider a rich 50 year old creep doing drugs and going around impregnating young women and paying them to go away as successful? Then yes he is ..

[olalonde]

What does being "successful in business" have to do with his personal life? Not to mention that most of the things you mentioned is based on questionable tabloid reporting.

[sorcerer-mar]

Who said "successful in business?" No one except you, right here.

I said he was "off the rails", you said he is "doing remarkably well," and GP listed reasons he seems like a deeply unhappy and psychologically damaged person.

Now you're moving the goal posts to "successful in business". I guess your reflexive need to defend the world's richest person is rubbing up against the reality of the situation?

[olalonde]

I was referring to his professional life when I said he was doing remarkably well - I don't know much about his personal life, and that wasn't the point of the discussion. What did you mean then by Yaccarino staining her legacy then? Are you implying she took advantage of Musk's vulnerable mental state?

> I guess your reflexive need to defend the world's richest person is rubbing up against the reality of the situation?

I'm not defending him, he just doesn't seem "off the rails" to me. Having children with multiple women might be unconventional, but I wouldn't take it as proof of being "a deeply unhappy and psychologically damaged person". As for drug addiction, that would be far more concerning, but given how high-functioning he appears to be, I'd be genuinely surprised if that were the case.

[sorcerer-mar]

You thought that by "off the rails" I was suggesting that the world's richest man is doing badly in business? No you didn't. I think you're lying.

If you did, then clearly you require far more effort to communicate with than is worth conjuring up.

[olalonde]

I didn’t get what you meant, since he doesn't come across that way to me, and doing remarkably well in business seems pretty incompatible with being "off the rails." Believe it or not, quite a few people here are seriously arguing that he's failing in business.

[sorcerer-mar]

Sounds good!