[itronitron]

If it's fair use to train a model, that doesn't necessarily imply that the model can be legally used to generate anything.

[pier25]

I've been reading a bit more about this. The training might not be considered fair use if it's not considered transformative.

Claude has been considered transformative given it's not really meant to generate books but Suno or Midjourney are absolutely in another category.

[markhahn]

really? so Suno or Midjourney can produce literal copies of works they were trained on?

[bongodongobob]

Well I've been able to get Suno to do Beatles covers. It only works maybe 1/20 times, but you can do it. It's not an exact replica either, but you can get the same chords and melodies as the original.

[protocolture]

Well there was that legal company who trained an LLM on their oppositions legal documents and then generated their own. I dont think inputs or outputs were ruled legal in that regard.

But as long as the model isnt outputting infringing works theres not really any issue there either.

[make3]

this is funny and potentially accurate