[93po]

Volvo: 600km range, 82k lb capacity, 60% charge in 40 minutes, $350k

Tesla: 800km range, 82k lb capacity, 70% charge in 30 minutes (with a much higher capacity battery), $250k

Telsa would also probably have better dealer network, better software (self driving), better charger network

Why would anyone buy Volvo?

[gamblor956]

The Tesla battery is almost twice the size of the Volvo VNR Electric battery but only gets slightly more range than the comparably specced Volvo VNR Electric when fully loaded.

But the Volvo VNR Electric can be self-serviced. Tesla Semis can't. And given Tesla's abysmal service history, that's a deal breaker. And it's why no company has actually used Tesla Semis beyond the token trial Semi they purchased using government grants.

[rasz]

Because you _can_ but Volvo right now, its a real product.

[beAbU]

Because the volvo truck exists and tesla does not?

Also, have you learned nothing when it comes to announced specs of a new tesla vs real world specs when it lands?

[93po]

okay, but these are future purchases. these companies already have a fleet of diesel trucks that are working. and at some point they need to expand and replace existing, and they're clearly fine waiting for a better product at a better price to do so, because at some point the break-even doesn't make sense if something costs 30% and does less.

it's not "im buying volvo because tesla semis arent in super mass production yet". it's "i'm going to replace with an EV semi when it makes prudent financial sense to do so". and for some companies that means buying a volvo now, and for others it means extending the lifespan of their current fleet a bit until teslas are more available, and if you can wait, it makes sense to do so

its also worth noting that volvo didn't deliver 5000 semis comparable to tesla's semi. that 5k number includes their entire fleet of trucks, including significantly smaller ones with significantly smaller range and less capacity. it makes sense to out-sell tesla in an area where tesla literally isn't even making a comparable product