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I like both languages, those are the issues where I see someone looking from outside and having such complexity claim as the OP.

The ecosystem is part of what means to use a specific language, though.

Yeah, having to guess what standards and extensions each C and C++ compiler implement, is also an issue with them, and will eventually come to Rust as implementations eventually come up, originally there was only CFront and UNIX System V compilers.