[toofy]

i think people are trying to make this difficult when it’s honestly super simple.

yes, you can make a product. no, it does not suddenly magically make you a musician.

you did the equivalent of hiring someone else to do it. you did not do it.

if you claim you wrote the novel, you’re lying. someone else did. if someone takes credit for work someone else did, they’re lying. it’s honestly not complicated. at all.

[thunky]

you're not countering what i'm saying, so i think we agree.

i'm just adding that (as an "engineer") i don't care what you call me, or what i call myself, because nobody cares and it doesn't matter. i'm commodified labor. replacable. with no claim on anything. and nobody will ever agree on the correct title anyway.

what actually matters imo is who the owner is.

[toofy]

yeah, it sounds like we both agree with the original post.

it literally doesn’t make someone an engineer.

its not difficult to understand but for some reason when its said it pisses certain people off.

i suspect many of the people upset want to convince themselves they’re suddenly magically a musician, architect, engineer, novelist, programmer, etc… when it just couldn’t be further from the truth. they’re just doing the equivalent of sending a dm to a coder friend and the friend is the actual programmer.

i think some people don’t appreciate being told the truth.