[slwvx]

Humans are a bigger risk to coyotes than coyotes to humans.

> It would be better to remove the coyotes before this happens.

following this logic, we should just kill all coyotes. We did this to lotsa other species, I hope we've stopped that.

[triceratops]

> we should just kill all coyotes

At least relocate them out of cities. Why would you ever want a predator that large living inside a city?

Let a dog, a domesticated animal that we trust to live in our homes with our children and babies, off-leash in a city and people lose their minds. But coyotes move in and everyone's chill? Wtf

[andoando]

A lot of cities have stray dogs roaming around

[skeeter2020]

>> At least relocate them out of cities.

Ah yes, make it someone else's costly problem and let me feel good about myself because it's such a humane solution.

[triceratops]

> make it someone else's costly problem

Move them to a national forest and they'll be the local wildlife's problem.

> let me feel good about myself because it's such a humane solution

Yeah actually because it is humane and I do feel good about myself.

[rufus_foreman]

Where I live you can shoot coyotes in any season with a hunting permit. That's chill? OK then, let's be chill about off-leash dogs and apply the same rules to them.

[triceratops]

That's not what the story is about. But you sound like you want to shoot dogs.

[rufus_foreman]

Do I?

You sound like you think it's OK to let your dog run off-leash.

[triceratops]

My suggestion was relocating the coyotes, not shooting them. I'm ok applying that rule to off-leash dogs and in fact, that's what happens. They're trapped and taken to a shelter for the owner to reclaim. They're eventually put down if unclaimed.

You suggested shooting dogs. Seek help.

[rufus_foreman]

Where do we relocate the off-leash dogs to? This interests me.

We catch a dog off-leash in a park and the dog gets relocated to...where?

[skeeter2020]

Are off-leash dogs in your part of the world a consistent threat to your safety, or an annoyance? There's obvious recourse since dogs have owners, but maybe you should shoot them too?

[rufus_foreman]

>> Are off-leash dogs in your part of the world a consistent threat to your safety

Killed people here, yeah. What's the recourse when a pit bull kills you, skeeter2020? Can you tell me that? When you're dead from a pit bull attack, what's your recourse?

I'm really interested in the answer.

[southernplaces7]

Coyotes are already slaughtering pets in places where their population reaches saturation levels thanks to access to so much easy food. It's not a hypothetical, it's something that actively happens and in such places, attacks on little kids are not a miniscule risk.

No, you don't have to kill all coyotes to control a specific population of them in a particular place in way that actually re-balances a completely unnatural saturation in their numbers.

There's nothing grotesque about recognizing the reality of these being urban spaces in which it might just not be a good idea to have many thousands more 40-kilo predators wandering around than would ever be natural even if the area were totally uninhabited by humans.

[bpodgursky]

In cities where parks are the few places kids can play outdoors yes that is a reasonable idea.

[skeeter2020]

I wouldn't worry about this; pretty rare that today's parent lets their kid farther away than arms length!