[pragmatic]

Woah that’s bleak.

You don’t have to be faster than the bear, just faster than the other people the bear is chasing.

The bar is so low in corporate America you could trip on it.

Just try to be halfway competent, do something useful at work, read a book or two about your industry. You’re already way ahead.

Don’t fall for the hacker news bs.

Lots of millionaires out here that never had a successful startup.

[kaiwenwang]

I've tried to be as accurate as I perceive it, and the descriptions of the environment are accurate to the locale of most of the United States.

If the bar is that low, then the environment is sure to be like the first place I described.

[danparsonson]

"Most of the United States"? You're covering an awfully big area there - how much of it have you actually seen for yourself vs learned about second hand through news and social media?

As for the skills bar, if you're intent on being hired by the likes of OpenAI then sure, you'll need to aim high, but for the majority of jobs, being reasonably good, friendly, and reliable will definitely be sufficient; the challenge is then mainly about seeming slightly more appealing than the other candidates for a position.

[kaiwenwang]

As an adult I lived in Georgia, South Carolina, Ohio for internships and visited the major cities: Seattle, SF, Chicago, NYC, Boston, DC, Dallas, Philly.

Most of the United States is suburbanized, and if you want to rent an apartment near the city it tends to be that gray laminate style I've described for $1500/mo with roommates.

Most of the people who managed to have a family in a major city area are doing well for themselves, prior to asset and rent inflation because they have accessible goods and knowledge to them.

I didn't even know what IKEA was until age 18.

Because the national system of laws and transportation forms a certain culture, Costco regardless of the location is the same. The STOP signs in the United States are all the same. The processing of foods all follow certain guidelines. There are certain stores existing up to the limits of the locale, and only certain producers because society has centralized so heavily. So I think my claim of generality is reasonable.

[asdf6969]

Sufficient is irrelevant when the interviews are 10x harder than the actual job. Employment is a competition. How else can you explain the credentials arms race for low skilled labour?

[coderatlarge]

> Lots of millionaires out here that never had a successful startup.

what do you mean by this?

[WJW]

Not GP, but exactly what he says: don't fall for the HN narrative that the only way to be successful in life is to found a startup and become a billionaire at 25. Carefully and diligently working your way up the career ladder and consistently spending less than you earn has a vastly higher expected value than the startup life, but since it can be described in a few sentences and is not very exciting you will not find many influencers pushing it.

[coderatlarge]

thanks for explaining; 100% agree.

[asdf6969]

> The bar is so low in corporate America you could trip on it.

I talk to incompetent people all day every day but I don’t know anyone competent who could get the opportunity to work here without at least a few weeks of studying and a lot of luck. Thousands of applicants for every position and you still think meritocracy matters? The only winners in this market are people with no self respect and the well connected