[2muchcoffeeman]

The problem with all processes is that people aren’t interested in sticking with them.

Why is your team 20 people if the majority don’t do anything you’re remotely close to? Someone should have split the team or at least the standup.

Why doesn’t your lead enforce a time limit and script?

It can happen the other way round as well. My team is small but only I ever stick to the script. Every one else talks in detail for 2-3 minutes. Their updates could have been 20sec.

You wouldn’t be complaining if someone actually did something about it.

[ipaddr]

Now you need three managers. The reason for the 20 person standup is to save money and give lip service to the standup trend.

[Talanes]

Same manager with right-sized stand-ups wouldn't cost anymore money, unless that manager is making many multiples over what any of their team makes. It seems more like a kneejerk reaction to not "waste" the manager's time at the expense of the actually-more-important-but-hierarchically-less-important employees.

[2muchcoffeeman]

Easy. Have another team member run the stand up.

Again the problem is that no one is interested in processes to make things better or more efficient and then people blame the process.

The process might have plenty of short comings, but we’ll never know.