[theobr]

This article makes ME feel like I'm going insane. Have you even read the React docs?

The article you linked about "patterns" in React is explicitly referencing patterns that are 7+ years out of date. Hooks were built to REPLACE those patterns, and they did a phenomenal job.

90% of this article is immediately invalidated by introducing a simple, 20loc "useQuery" hook (or, god forbid, looking at ANY of the libraries that provide similar. Shoutout React Query)

I really wish we could get more valid critique of React from people who actually understand the framework, instead of this drivel from devs who spend more time complaining in blog posts than reading the docs.

[penguibird]

When I saw the setState in useEffect, I immediately knew why the person hates react. That's a horrible antipattern used by people who refuse to read the few articles about useEffect and when to use it.

[CanRau]

HOC with render prop in 2025 https://github.com/TanStack/form/pull/1469 Render props in 2025 https://react-spectrum.adobe.com/react-aria/Dialog.html#aler... and there's more examples, just couldn't find more without looking just saying, in general I agree, but they still have their place

[colinta]

I agree about that specific patterns post being a bad example... but if you google for "react patterns" you won't be starved for examples of more terrible drivel. That's just what's out there, people repeat it ad nauseam. So _good luck_ to anyone who really does want to learn the right thing. From that standpoint, that article is as good or bad as most others out there (old man shakes fist at dev.to).

Even the venerable libraries like useQuery introduce as many surprises as they do benefits. The complexity cost of understanding what is going on under those 20 LOC is quite high – you need to understand "stable values" (which is only relevant to React components), re-renders and how they're triggered, maybe need to understand how graphql fragments are collated into one query document... maybe need to know when useRef is the right way to memoize over useMemo.

I agree with the author, that it feels insane. I would even add to the insanity the lack of quality when searching for help, and the weird rabbit holes that GPT can send you down if you don't already know what "good" looks like.