[chaoskitty]

Serious question: You put Cloudflare between all your domains and all your visitors without looking in to how this would affect your site's reachability? If so, that's interesting, considering that many people in this community are negatively affected by Cloudflare because they're using Linux and/or some less than mainstream browser.

You might want to read some threads on here about Cloudflare.

[slenk]

Where did I say all.

Most of the time I don't use them for their network, usually just DNS records for mail because their interface is nicer than namecheap and gives me basic stats.

To my understanding, they aren't blocking MX records behind captchas

[chaoskitty]

You're right that you didn't say all. What you did write implied you use them for "AI protection", although you didn't say you did do that.

So if I wrote, "You would put" instead of "You put", then what? Would you be comfortable using their "AI protection" simply because it's free?

[slenk]

AI protection isn't a selling point for me. What I have said is I use them for DNS records, primarily for mx and txt records

[djfivyvusn]

So you're not using the parasite and that's your claim why it's not a parasite?

[slenk]

Dude, stop putting words in my mouth. I never said they weren't bad.

Some nicer people here tried the educative approach and it worked much better. I learned about Bunny. And I keep forgetting I have a few in deSec but that has a limit.

I do not understand the hostility

[lurking_swe]

> I do not understand the hostility

Unfortunately I don’t think they were participating in the conversation in good faith. People can have an extreme view on _anything_…even internet / tech. They buy into a dream of 100% open source, or “open internet”, or 100% decentralized, whatever.

When this happens they may be convinced that “others” are crazy for not sharing their utopian vision. And once this point is reached, they struggle to communicate with their peers or normal people effectively. They share their strong opinions without sharing important context (how they reached those opinions), they think the topic is black and white (because they feel so strongly about the topic), or they become hostile to others that are not sharing that vision.

You are their latest victim lol. Ignore them, and carry on.

[ranger_danger]

One of my favorite quotes: "As a rule, strong feelings about issues do not emerge from deep understanding." -Sloman and Fernbach

Learning how to spot this, and ignore such-minded people who argue in bad faith, has made me a lot happier and more chill in general.

[djfivyvusn]

I never said you did?

You said one response up that they weren't parasites by asking how they were parasites and then proceeded to claim you have no experience with their parasitic services.

I'm just pointing out your anecdote wasn't valid.

[amy_petrik]

>How is Cloudflare a parasite?

>I never said they weren't bad.

>I don't understand the hostility.

It's known the community here doesn't like Cloudflare, and anyone who's been on the customer end of Cloudflare would tend to agree. In that context, if you truly are blind to seeing this, when you said, "how is Cloudflare a parasite" to a group not liking of cloudflare... ... it may land as saying something like "How is Hitler a bad guy?", which I hope is self-evident is saying he's a good guy contextually, of course you could troll it out and devil's advocate yourself that you were merely asking an innocent question.

[slenk]

I thought Cloudflare overall was neutral - meaning as many haters as lovers. I know the CEO frequents here as well.

When I ask how is Cloudflare a "parasite" I was being genuine. I know it was a problem for some users, but I don't think I realized how prevalent it was