[bee_rider]

It is fine to say there isn’t evidence for something. For some reason the poster decided to invite this challenge by calling it “easily debunked” instead. A debunking is specifically a claim that there’s evidence that the original claim was wrong.

[mh-]

This is just a form of gish galloping [0]. Like I alluded to, it's disappointing that discourse on HN is at a place where enough of the participants are supportive of this as long as it's happening to the "other team."

> During a typical Gish gallop, the galloper confronts an opponent with a rapid series of specious arguments, half-truths, misrepresentations and outright lies, making it impossible for the opponent to refute all of them within the format of the debate.

See also Brandolini's law [1] if this feels familiar:

> The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law

[bee_rider]

It is not any more effort to say “It is an unsubstantiated and unprovable rumor that ICE has deputized proud boys.” It is also a much more accurate reflection of the level of confidence.

If you call somebody’s claim “easily debunked,” that’s a proactive offer of counter evidence. It isn’t Gish gallop to accept that offer of counter evidence.

Anyway, where else is the conversation supposed to go? The post had the offer of an easy debunking and no other content.