[Kim_Bruning]

I've worked in Amsterdam. Used to take my car out to a park and ride station out in "the province" and joined the first standup of the day out of the "long yellow office building" [1], then a short walk to the tall grey one to actually get coding.

In or near Amsterdam I've seen and/or used busses, trains, ferrys, trams, bicycles, cars; and aircraft on approach to Schiphol looked like they almost flew past the window.

I also kind of like New Amsterdam (New York). It's cozy!

Can't argue with taste I guess. %-)

[1] Intercity trains: Long, Yellow, with electricity, free wifi, a place to sit, and you can bring your own Starbucks on board. Do try to avoid rush hour, or you'll be taking "standup" a bit too literally.

[cyberax]

> I've worked in Amsterdam.

So did I. And I had to be at the office at 7:30am. Even when the weather outside was "bracing".

> [1] Intercity trains: Long, Yellow, with electricity, free wifi, a place to sit, and you can bring your own Starbucks on board. Do try to avoid rush hour, or you'll be taking "standup" a bit too literally.

So basically, you wasted around 2 hours a day on the commute?

[Kim_Bruning]

Total commute time was about 3 hours (90 minutes each way). I do not live in Amsterdam. About an hour of that was wasted because I needed to drive myself. The rest was often spent in useful ways in the back seat of a lovely stretched yellow vehicle with lots of horsepower and a chauffeur.

[cyberax]

Now imagine that Amsterdam doesn't exist. I mean, other than a queer little museum town.

And you can just telecommute or use a nearby shared working space.

[Kim_Bruning]

Where possible, the best commute is no commute at all. No argument from me!