[cs_throwaway]

> It seems like no more than a year ago the prevailing narrative was problems with higher education and science: how predatory and insidious the student loan industry is, and how it traps people in a cycle of debt with special treatment from the government to not let them escape; the replication crisis revealing just how deeply flawed the incentives in science are, and how safeguards like peer review have failed to stop the slide.

All that is true, and fewer people should be pushed into pointless colleges.

ACM SIGOPS/SIGARCH does not represent that. This is a group of people doing fundamental work on computing systems, microprocessors, etc. They are largely at very technical schools, and lamenting that they won't be able to pay for PhD students -- who do not take loans, debt, etc.

(CS PhD students are paid well enough and have amazing post-PhD/dropout-PhD opportunities. Happy to have that argument.)

[Ekaros]

Why is industry not properly paying for this work they are exploiting? They make up majority of the most valuable companies on market. Surely they have the money to pay for this work. Which I guess is often relatively cheaper than their average employees...