[dale_glass]

Certainly a bathroom has to be included, you can't lock people in a tube in the sky and then not let them pee.

But I believe Ryanair considered trying not to use seats at one point.

[sidewndr46]

Actually you can do exactly that, at least in the US. I've been stuck on a plane more than once and told I couldn't use the restroom

[ndsipa_pomu]

That sounds unlikely - did they give a reason (e.g. toilet cannot be used when the fasten seatbelt light is on during turbulence/landing/take-off)

[sidewndr46]

The reason was because they said so.

Keep in mind, I also had a flight attendant tell me that using Zoom on a plane is a felony.

[ndsipa_pomu]

Which airline(s) was that, so that we can avoid them?

[johnisgood]

Then they will have to hire cleaners, because I will shit and pee all over the seat.

[sidewndr46]

I've never personally seen someone do that but I have heard stories of this happening before.

[johnisgood]

I have incontinence, so I either wear diapers (still going to pee and defecate regardless), or I have access to the bathroom in time. If I wear diapers, there is going to be odor contamination in the area. It is bad for others, and for me, and their business too, I assume. Depends on the length of the trip; I try to limit fluid intake to zero before I go outside.

[rjh29]

Ryanair also considered charging for bathrooms.

Although in both cases, it's hard to tell if they were serious, or just doing PR.

[JimDabell]

It’s not hard to tell at all.

At peak season every year, O’Leary says something crazy like they are going to charge for the bathroom, or charge fat people extra, or get rid of arm rests, or have standing room only. The tabloids run the story, and always mention how cheap the flights are, including whatever the cheapest deal at the moment is.

It’s very, very obvious advertising. The tabloids go along with it because it makes people angry, which drives traffic.