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by jakelazaroff 358 days ago
Nobody has "complete control", sure, but there's a reason Gaza doesn't have an airport (destroyed by the IDF) and can't receive aid by sea (intercepted by the IDF).

The latter happened as recently as this month; the IDF commandeered a boat delivering humanitarian aid to Gaza and arrested its passengers in international waters. https://mondoweiss.net/2025/06/israeli-forces-commandeer-aid...
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dlubarov 358 days ago
Thunberg's flotella isn't a very good example of Israel preventing aid. The flotella carried a symbolic bit of aid, and Israel didn't reject it, they just insisted that it go through proper channels rather than violate a blockade which is in place for justifiable security reasons.
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cog-flex 351 days ago
“Didn’t reject it”.

They bombed the first boat. In international waters.

Extremist ideology makes people say some strange things, but the intellectual contortion dlubarov asks the reader to endure in order to see Israel as a bonafide example of “proper channels” is tantamount to lobotomy.

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jakelazaroff 358 days ago
Saying that Israel gets to determine the "proper channels" for people and aid to enter Gaza is a tacit admission that the strip is occupied by Israel.
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dlubarov 358 days ago
Post Oct 7, of course there's an occupation now that Israel has boots on the ground.
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jakelazaroff 358 days ago
October 7 was not the start of Israel intercepting aid in international waters: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/9/freedom-flotillas-a-...

> The movement, founded in 2006 by activists during Israel’s war on Lebanon, went on to launch 31 boats between 2008 and 2016, five of which reached Gaza despite heavy Israeli restrictions.

> Since 2010, all flotillas attempting to break the Gaza blockade have been intercepted or attacked by Israel in international waters.

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dlubarov 358 days ago
I don't quite get the point you're getting at; we're all in agreement that there is a blockade. The flotella doesn't really add anything to our understanding of the situation - we already knew there was a blockade and that unauthorized ships wouldn't be allowed to pass.

That doesn't imply much about aid; it's not a total blockade and there are mechanisms for importing aid. One can argue that the aid distribution mechanisms are bad, and it might be reasonable to propose various changes (different aid mechanisms, a relaxation of the blockade, etc), but it wouldn't really make sense for Israel to make exceptions and allow certain unauthorized ships to just circumvent its blockade.

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jakelazaroff 358 days ago
Read further up the thread. There are definitely people here who don't agree that Israel is occupying Gaza.
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