[stryan]

I'm lazy by nature so I don't like learning new tools if I don't have to. I've stuck with make, direnv, and my distros package manager instead of learning just or asdf so that I don't need to learn anything new. But mise hits that sweet spot of being a better direnv and a (mostly) better Make that it became worth the effort to try it out and I'm glad I did. It also helps that jdx (the author) really cares about the ergonomics of use and it shows; the documentation is up to date, the commands make sense, and every time I start to get annoyed some paper cut with it I discover there's already a fix for it (like `mise task run task-name` and `mise task-name` being equivalent commands so you don't have to type as much).

If you try to stick to the classic POSIX tools since they're installed everywhere, I urge you to give mise a try anyway. It and fzf are the only programs I've found that are truly worth the extra effort it takes to install them, even if it is just grabbing a binary.

[fmbb]

By ”a better Make”, do you mean Mise does phony target task-like recipes better?

Or is it better than Make at actually making things, tracking file and recipe dependencies, detecting what needs to be rebuilt etc?

[stryan]

Sorry, yes I should have clarified I meant as a task-runner! It's also been pretty good at the actual software building part too, but I haven't compared it quite as in-depth yet to make a public comment.

[elviejo]

I'll add the 'dtrx' (Do The Right Extraction) as one of those tools that are worth to learn compared to the more basic alternatives