[jimnotgym]

The lack of self-awareness here is incredible. Every Visa, Mastercard and PayPal transaction in my country results in us paying tax to the US. You think we couldn't develop our own card schemes?

US tech business gets tax free entry into our market. It uses our roads, our communications, our police and court system. All of this is to the detriment of our local business.

A huge amount of our defence spending goes directly to the US. We buy your planes even when we could make better ones ourselves. We have supported the US in nearly every colonial adventure since WW2.

Why do we allow ourselves to be milked like this? We are paying tribute to the US for being the ally of our colonial masters. Its time we stopped.

[GiorgioG]

Yes all these things you don’t do yourselves because you can do it better, cheaper and faster. Listen to yourself.

[jimnotgym]

You may recall that Europe has its own card schemes, but the UK doesn't join them, because of the 'special relationship'.

The UK was forced by the US to abandon TSR2, the best jet in the world, to get a cash bailout from the US, that it needed after all of the years fighting WW2 on its own...it spent all of its money buying material...from the USA. The UK invented lots of key military equipment, Radar, proximity fuses, nuclear bombs, jet engines, and gave them all to the US. It is about time the US paid us back, you leeches

[GiorgioG]

I don't recall Europe having its own global card schemes.

The TSR-2 was abandoned due to cost overruns. The F-111 would have been cheaper...but even that was abandoned and eventually the Tornado came along...not a US aircraft.

The flow of military inventions flowed both ways during WW2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_technological_cooperati... Maybe if you hadn't had a coward as a leader in Chamberlain we wouldn't have had to bail you guys out (and lose ~250,000 Americans in Europe.)

[jimnotgym]

>The TSR-2 was abandoned due to cost overruns. The F-111 would have been cheaper...but even that was abandoned and eventually the Tornado came along...not a US aircraft.

Well done for skim reading Wikipedia. That is pretty much the excerpt from the top of the page shortened even more to take out key details.

Tsr2 was cancelled in 1965. Tornado entered service in the 1980s. Big gap to have no planes at all...

>The F-111 would have been cheaper

"It was decided to order an adapted version of the General Dynamics F-111 instead, but that decision was also later rescinded as costs and development times increased."

Filled in the gap for you

Tsr2 was cancelled due to American blackmail, neo-colonial bullying. A skim read of Wikipedia doesn't refute it