[hedora]

There were more than 100 armed jewish uprisings in Germany during WWII:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_resistance_in_German-oc...

Going through your criteria in order: Of course they defended themselves, including attempts to kill Nazis. They also attempted to keep their homes, and certainly would have rather Germany have different leadership

Does that somehow mean the concentration camps were a "war"?

[earnestinger]

I think the parent meant there were no shooting before the genocide started. Jewish resistances were reactive to nazi actions.

I.e. there was not even a possibility that nazis were defending. While somebody from Palestine side did fire the opening salvo on oct7.

[fzil]

> While somebody from Palestine side did fire the opening salvo on oct7.

Now, that's a re-writing of history if I've ever seen one.

> Israeli and Palestinian deaths preceding the 2023 Gaza war. Of the Palestinian deaths 5,360 were in Gaza, 1,007 in the West Bank, 37 in Israel. Most were civilians on both sides.

Quote from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Israeli%E2%80%...

See the chart on the top right with the orange bars

[earnestinger]

I do understand that it was not the first first salvo.

And that blockading policy and financing of anything but fatah and bunch of other stuff influenced today situation.

But you must admit that oct 7 was unusual escalation. Which now are used as the reason for current idf actions.