[mpalmer]

Your country, at least to the extent you seem to claim it as such, only started letting its women drive in 2018. As recently as 2011 there was no law prohibiting violence against women. So that's one way of keeping the crime rate low, I guess.

If someone were paying you to defend the Saudi state in online forums, you would probably go to the trouble of giving your posts at least a tiny bit of nuance.

[sthkr]

No ones paying me anything. I've lived there for almost 3 decades there and travelled around the world too including western countries. I know how the country has transitioned in these last 30 years from the clutches of religious extremists and into a more comfortable country for its young generation of citizens. Saudi Arabia has always been a traditional country with Bedouin customs. Before, all families had personal drivers and chauffeurs to help the women travel around. In the last few years, Saudi Arabia has fired millions of foreigners and encouraged more women to get in the work force. Hence, the government decided to let them drive. Companies that hire women in Saudi Arabia get more benefits from the government. Women get all their travel expenses refunded to them by the government for the first few years. There are so many universities and programs for universities for women. Regarding the crime rate, yes it's low compared to western countries. Crime does occur both in families and around the country, but the government helps takes care of all these issues. The streets are still safer in the Gulf countries than compared to western countries. You won't find african/asian junkies, drunks, muggers roaming around the streets stealing or threatening people. The government does an amazing job of maintaining order and arresting and deporting thousands of illegals and criminals each month.

[SanjayMehta]

You’re wasting your time trying to educate the wilfully ignorant.

[mpalmer]

> Before, all families had personal drivers and chauffeurs to help the women travel around.

It is frankly incredible how profoundly you are missing the point.

> Crime does occur both in families and around the country, but the government helps takes care of all these issues.

Oh I'm sure they do, and when something goes to court, a man's testimony carries twice the weight of a woman's. Or would you deny and/or sugarcoat that?

> You won't find african/asian junkies, drunks, muggers roaming around the streets stealing or threatening people.

You've described this weird racist fantasy of yours more than once now. Do you think that's what the world outside your country is like? That's really sad if so.

You are making the mistake of assuming most people share your values, which based solely on this thread seem to be authoritarian, nativist and male-supremacist.