[fredfish]

It's clearly a serious problem that GPs ignore things that will surface but it is also a problem that experts surface things that don't need to be surfaced and in the worst cases even did not exist but fit a fad theory.

One should be very careful with measures claiming things like 90% as GPs defer to experts for these measures.

[pavlov]

You’re talking about two different GPs.

The other poster meant “grandparent”, as in the comment above the one they were replying to.

And I think you mean GP in the British sense of “general practitioner”, i.e. medical doctor.

[fredfish]

Ah, yes, I took this to be a reference to general doctors don't take psychological issues seriously, which is both true at times and sometimes exaggerated.

[djur]

What fad theories are you thinking of?

[fredfish]

The "satanic panic" was certainly an extreme example, but in general the entire industry spent a few decades inducing false memories. Because of the nature of trust in authority few people question when they are pressured to have a trauma and psychological effects from events that never occurred.

On the lesser end, I think many of the consumer oriented psychologists will take you in this direction with events that did occur but are probably typical experiences and only actually effect specific personalities.

[47282847]

It does look like the whole false memory theory was blown out of proportion:

https://news.isst-d.org/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-false-memor...

https://neurosciencenews.com/false-memories-psychology-28326...

Even more so, “satanic panic“ is a term that contains some truth (“tread carefully, conspiracy nuts territory“) but the overgeneralization makes it so actual organized abuse structures and its victims are dismissed too easily. Plenty of hard fact cases of such structures exist. See also for example the recent warning by Europol and the research into structures such as 764. The Bhagwan/Osho cult and many others can serve as prominent examples.

https://www.europol.europa.eu/media-press/newsroom/news/inte...

https://gnet-research.org/2024/01/19/764-the-intersection-of...

Reality is all shades of grey (or colors), not black and white. I find it important to warn of the dangers of such spiritual abuse communities and its techniques, and to not dismiss it as nonexistent and an invention of some esoteric nutjobs with the wave of a hand, which is what this terminology is doing. This attitude drives more people into such structures.

[fredfish]

I don't really get your point. Our skepticism toward reports involving real cults and incompetent insititutions is certainly higher since 12000 patients were hurt by non existing satanic institutions in bad therapy. They are not less hurt by the fact that it could have happened.

Percentages from the lost in a mall experiment don't seem to show anything surprising about how I would expect these traumas to end up integrating with real experience, and the patients that were going to be most susceptible were probably not going to look like a random selection study, see far more in the importance of their relationship with their therapist, etc.