[lakotasapa]

Yeah great question. With family members including not living with you. It's virtually impossible to backup from iPad/Phones to android phones and tablets and multitudes of PC's Linux to iOS to Wintel.

Eagerly awaiting answers from you all but for now...

  1. rsync from where I can.
  2. manually copy whenever I get the device in hand.
  3. backup cronjobs from omv server
  4. my main desktop use Timeshift
  5. LocalSend

Also trying to use Immich once I can get a stabilized build. Had to rescrape entire pic/vid family lib of 3TB multiple times.

Also cronjobs to attached USB and NAS to have backups of backups of backups.

No one seems to realize every household is a micro enterprise!

Then make matter worse, with all the tightening of security. It's harder and harder to remote into and recv/xfer files l.

[scarface_74]

> Yeah great question. With family members including not living with you. It's virtually impossible to backup from iPad/Phones to android phones and tablets and multitudes of PC's Linux to iOS to Wintel.

It’s simple with Google Drive or Dropbox

[lakotasapa]

Yes but I'm inclined to not allow "public" cloud of personal photos. I'm almost positive all your files are being used to train AI. Not to mention nothing works on iOS except apps from aapl.

So long term, I'm thinking of private cloud and a cross platform app where its sole purpose in life is to xfer all files in a particular folder on the device to the private cloud.

Most are not tech savvy enough to setup that backup. Not to mention I'll need access to aquire.

Long list of why's.....

[scarface_74]

Neither is true. Google Drive, Dropbox, OneDrive, and even Amazon Drive work on iOS and all have policies that they don’t train on your photos.

Logically, how could they train on your photos? Training on photos require humans to label the content of photos for training.

All of the apps I mentioned are cross platform.

[lakotasapa]

Have you tried to exchange photos from iOS to Android? Also Google drive requires you to have a Gmail address.

Not well versed in all platforms but whenever I talk to others to exchange photos of events and such. It's always a tremendous pain point to figure out how/where to.

Just my observations as I am trying to figure out the most frictionless way to exchange pics.

Also reminder that each versions of iOS and Android has their own limits based on app level that tops out at their versions.

Just a big huge mess.

PS. imho. Policies don't mean jack when there is absolutely no way for you to know if they have or haven't scraped. Gmail eng already got caught using his level of access to harass ppl. And Ring /Tesla were both caught sharing what should have been private and anon videos. I understand from dev point one must be able to decrypt to debug but nevertheless, you use their service, it's theirs to do whatever they want.

Not that I'm peddling anything illegal but my family photos I've already had random files including pictures and videos that wasn't mine in my Google drive and it also wasn't wrongly shared.

CV+ML with AI now don't need human intervention to id the materials.

[scarface_74]

Again none of this is true. Google drive doesn’t require you to have a Google address - just an email address when you create an account.

On iOS, once you install Google Drive, it shows up as a storage provider in the Files app - as does One Drive, Dropbox, iCloud Drive etc abd you can copy files back and forth. You can also connect any USB C storage device to your iOS device and it also shows up in the Files app and you copy files to it.

AI is nothing magical. What good is using random photos for training without labeling?

> Also reminder that each versions of iOS and Android has their own limits based on app level that tops out at their versions.

What does that even mean?

And Tesla is not exactly a trustworthy company nor is it’s leader

[lakotasapa]

My observations are from doing the grandma test. Just trying to figure out how to reduce or eliminate the pain points I've observed.