[keutoi]

_Allowing scam call centers to flourish_.

How much control does an average citizen have over these criminal enterprises? Does an average US citizen know/care/take-action when mercenaries from their country topple governments of other countries? As long as the crime is not visible, they just enjoy fruits of their crimes.

[_zagj]

> How much control does an average citizen have over these criminal enterprises?

My point was about the government. This phenomenon is large enough that I'm shocked it hasn't openly caused a diplomatic rift between the US and India, and New Delhi should have a vested interested in combating it.

> when mercenaries from their country topple governments of other countries

What "mercenaries" are you referring to?

[keutoi]

Why would any country be proactive in combating this? Do you think US will be fair in return? US protects it's people even from International war crimes.

Mercenaries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r...

[throwaway_434]

> This phenomenon is large enough that I'm shocked it hasn't openly caused a diplomatic rift between the US and India, and New Delhi should have a vested interested in combating it.

It is only large enough to you probably. India has been sanctioned by US in the 90s for doing reciprocal nuclear tests (after China detonated its bomb) and suffered billions of dollars in trade. US gained nothing from the sanctions except to push India into more poverty. It ended up being counter-productive. Even now Trump is threatening India with billions of dollars in trade sanctions that far outweighs anything caused by scams (if you take absolute numbers).

> What "mercenaries" are you referring to?

The CIA is currently fuelling and instigating Manipur riots in India by supplying arms and ammunitions to Kuki narco-terrorists. Prior to this we had USAID that was influencing electoral politics within India. Apart from that, we just witnessed regime change operations in Bangladesh where Pro-India Shiekh Hasina was toppled for a Pro-US Jihadi Muhammad Yunus. All of these run the US taxpayers in hundreds of billions of dollars. Far more than any scam conducted by Indian call centers.

For an average US citizen, sure it feels like a lot, since you guys are at the receiving end. But since you mentioned why US Government is not bringing this up, it is because it pales in comparison to what US Government has done to India over the past 7 decades. India can bring up a lot of counterpoints that will only cause US diplomats to shut up. We haven't even touched on killing of our nuclear scientists. Too many skeletons in their closet.

[geodel]

Do tell about those nuclear scientists. Seems you know quite a bit.

[_zagj]

I believe they're referring to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homi_J._Bhabha

> Gregory Douglas, a journalist, conspiracy theorist,[128] forger,[129] and holocaust denier[130] who claimed to have conducted telephone conversations with former CIA operative Robert Crowley in 1993, published a book titled Conversations with the Crow in 2013. According to Douglas, Crowley claimed that the CIA was responsible for assassinating Homi Bhabha and Prime Minister Shastri in 1966, thirteen days apart, to thwart India's nuclear programme.[131]

Clearly, the GP is completely rational and quite well-informed.

[throwaway_434]

> Clearly, the GP is completely rational and quite well-informed.

Yep you believe everything under the Sun when it comes to your Governments and institutions, when it has been proven time and time again that they have been involved in regime change ops and covert ops.

It is quite evident you don't have any ability to introspect and question your own Government.

Also, it is not just Homi J Bhabha we are talking about. There is a list of at least 11 nuclear scientists that died unnatural deaths. These are just nuclear scientists. Total 684 scientists have died unnaturally in just the past 15 years.

You can keep dismissing all this as "conspiracy theory" but we all know how the 3-letter agencies operates.

[_zagj]

> India has been sanctioned by US in the 90s for doing reciprocal nuclear tests

For one year. 14 other countries sanctioned India too.

> The CIA is currently fuelling and instigating Manipur riots

I couldn't find anything on this besides articles on Indian/Bangladeshi InfoWars-tier websites.

> to what US Government has done to India over the past 7 decades

Like what?

[throwaway_434]

> For one year. 14 other countries sanctioned India too.

And what about it? When US sanctions any country, rest of the World follows. It is nothing new.

> I couldn't find anything on this besides articles on Indian/Bangladeshi InfoWars-tier websites.

Just google "Daniel Stephen Courney" [1]. Ex-US military. Supplying weapons and drones to Kuki narco-terrorists. It is a CIA op. We have seized US weapons in Manipur. US weapons don't magically reach far-flung Eastern region of India if not for external assistance.

Also, how does US made M16 rifle find its way into Manipur, India? [2]

1: https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/us-man-gifted-drone-ma...

2: https://english.mathrubhumi.com/news/india/large-cache-of-ar...

> Like what?

I don't have patience to give you the list of things US has done that is viewed negatively against India. The topmost being trying to nuke India in 1971, when US allied itself with Islamic dictatorship in Pakistan.

[throwaway48476]

India claims to be a democracy.

[whensean]

Thirty years after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Western countries have successfully transformed ideology to be quite similar to religion by constructing a "democratic" narrative. Religion holds that if you convert to God or Allah, you are right and blessed. The West now believes that what is democratic is right and just. So countries like India can claim to be democratic and thus gain a moral superiority. However, in reality, democracy has little to do with justice, development, and civilization.