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by udev4096 363 days ago
Qubes is definitely hard to daily drive. With it's ancient default XFCE design, it looks really ugly. Plus no hardware acceleration
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fsflover 363 days ago
What's hard about it exactly? It's my daily driver. You can install KDE, too: https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/kde-changing-the-way-you-use-qu...
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udev4096 361 days ago
More power usage, need at least 64G of ram to even remotely use it as it's intended, no hardware acc by default, buggy templates, sleep is broken, uses X11 for display, dom0 is not updated as frequently as it should be and I hardly see any effort in documenting the fact that individual VMs's security matter too. That is not to say I hate Qubes. I think everyone, especially people dealing with sensitive data, should use it
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fsflover 354 days ago
> More power usage

True, it's the price for security.

> need at least 64G of ram to even remotely use it as it's intended

This is false. I'm using it on a 32G machine never meeting the limit. If you use minimal templates, you can easily work on a 8G machine.

> no hardware acc by default

They're working on on it: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/8552

> buggy templates

What are you even talking about? I'm using Qubes as my daily driver and don't have any problems with the templates.

> sleep is broken

It works flawlessly on my Librem 14.

> uses X11 for display

Why is this a problem? See also: https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3366

> dom0 is not updated as frequently as it should be

Should be for what? No software should be run in dom0, so its updates are not relevant: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/dom0-secure-updates/#reasons-fo... and https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/how-to-install-software-in-dom0...

> I hardly see any effort in documenting the fact that individual VMs's security matter too

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/4233

Also, Kicksecure template is already available: https://forum.qubes-os.org/t/kicksecure-template-for-qubes-t...

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nullc 362 days ago
I think XFCE is much more attractive and usable than gnome stuff. In particular the buttons have borders so you can actually find them.

Video performance is a fair criticism for sure.

But is perpetual 0day RCE's in browsers and other highly exposed software is not running Qubes really a credible choice?

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udev4096 361 days ago
Sure, assess the threat model. I would also take security over convenience anytime, just like you proposed. But for normal users, it's not that simple. I use qubes in my testbox, I love it but it's still quite niche and sadly, far from hitting mainstream
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udev4096 361 days ago
On a separate note, I stalked your site and it seems you worked on bitcoin. I would love to hear about it, was it the early days?
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