[catoc]

That about ‘cogito ergo sums it up’ doesn’t it?

Intelligence is clearly possible. My gut feeling is our brain solves this by removing complexity. It certainly does so, continuously filtering out (ignoring) large parts of input, and generously interpolating over gaps (making stuff up). Whether this evolved to overcome this theorem I am not intelligent enough to conclude.

[giardini]

catoc states, amongst other things, that: >"Intelligence is clearly possible."<

Perhaps not a citation but a proof is required here!

[catoc]

Clearly possible in humans - the statement in the parent I was replying to.

I would indeed definitely like to see proof - mathematical or applied - of in silico intelligence

[eru]

Do you expect silicon to be less capable of the necessary computation than cells?

[giardini]

At best, I'm asking for a clear scientific definition of intelligence. At worst I'm questioning its very existence.

[filoeleven]

If you haven't yet encountered it, check out Michael Levin's lab and work. Among other things, they are trying to figure out what "basal cognition" is; the idea being that even if we can't point to some dividing line in the end, we'll have a better understanding of what cognition is and where it shows up. And it shows up surprisingly far down!

The definition of "intelligence" that he works with comes from William James: the ability to achieve the same goal by different means. It's a useful definition, given the remarkable stuff coming out of his lab.

[giardini]

I would indeed definitely like to see proof - of intelligence!