[giantrobot]

Where's the 10x, 20x, or whatever increases in profit from all the AI "productivity"? Typing is not the challenging aspect of writing code. Writing boilerplate faster isn't the super power that a lot of non-technical people seem to think it is.

[XorNot]

"it handles the boilerplate!" Has always been the weirdest argument about most things. Like, sure...so does a library. That's why we have libraries.

(Or at the extreme end, this is what something like C++ templates were for).

[giantrobot]

Libraries and frameworks remove some boilerplate but there's still tons of it. It's rare a library exposes a single doTheThingINeed() function that runs a business. Everyone needs boring but domain specific code.

[tomlockwood]

Yeah the current Vibe for me seems to be: Congratulations, you trained a giant machine that makes copying code from Stackoverflow marginally faster.

[jkmcf]

Are we returning to ideas having importance now since PoC are cheaper and easier? Any dev on HN can create a Facebook competitor, but getting the traffic shift will require some magical thinking.

[giantrobot]

A PoC has never really been a problem that needed solving. It's going from that to a product that's actually fit for purpose. AWS will happily drain your bank account because you're throwing tons of resources at a poor implementation. Hackers will also happily exploit trivial security vulnerabilities a vibe coder had no ability to identify let alone fix.

This is not the first time the industry has been down this road. They're not in themselves bad tools but their hype engenders a lot of overconfidence in non-technical users.