[wazoox]

> Also there is another half-a-billion or so which thinks man never landed on moon.

Citation needed. It looks to me like only a small gang of wingnuts are part of the "moon landing conspiration believers" (I never met one). Like s slight portion of those believing that 9/11 was a CIA/Israeli job, or that there isn't any biological evolution.

[nandemo]

I'm not claiming grandparent's number is correct, but it's at least plausible:

> A 2000 poll held by the Russian Public Opinion Fund found that 28% of those surveyed did not believe that American astronauts landed on the Moon, and this percentage is roughly equal in all social-demographic groups.[19] In 2009, a poll held by the United Kingdom's Engineering & Technology magazine found that 25% of those surveyed did not believe that men landed on the Moon.[20] Another poll gives that 25% of 18–25-year-olds surveyed were unsure that the landings happened.[21]

Note that a belief that "man never landed on moon" could be just out of ignorance, not necessarily a belief in a conspiracy. And considering that both the UK and Russia have relatively very high educational standards, it's not hard to believe the percentage is much higher elsewhere.

> Like s slight portion of those believing that 9/11 was a CIA/Israeli job,

"Slight portion"? Citation needed. :-)

[TheTruthIsHere]

Obviously you live in US, get your information from mainstream media (instead of doing your own research on the Web) and belong to the upper middle class. That's in my humble experience the only type of guy, who would never meet anyone disagreeing with government propaganda.

In Latin America, East Europe, Arabic countries, Russia and Japan ~90% of the people I talked to believe 9/11 was an inside job.

As for the moon landings - I'm one of those conspiracy believers. I've looked at what NASA&Co has to say and it's far from convincing. Here's a good site IMHO proving Armstrong and the other 20 astronauts never left Earth orbit: http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/Apollo4.html .

[quesera]

Actually, my dad worked on the mission in Cocoa Beach. The real problem was that they sent the lander to Mars, not the moon. The real concern at the time was the Tycho Monolith, remember, so although the mission was originally intended for the moon, JFK authorized some changes to suit McNamara's DoD. Big change, yes, but obviously necessary for Homeland Security.

You're right that some of the photos were doctored -- good work! The primary purpose of all of the Photoshop work was to remove the red hues from the ground. Some of the backgrounds were reused, of course. That wasn't uncommon back then. And of course the constellations that are thousands of light years away would have looked distorted, so they had to be removed.

But you're wrong about the framing and focus problem. While it turns out to be impossible for a geometrically-inclined engineer to aim a camera without a viewfinder, NASA was able to work with Polaroid to invent a fixed focus lens, which they later commercialized as the Brownie.

Great research! That davesweb guy does good work. It's too bad that the govt can't acknowledge the hard work folks like him have put in. It's just still too sensitive. My Dad never should have told me, but you know how people get when they're old.

Oh, this goes with saying I guess, but they never did find the monolith. So when Bush gets his colony on Mars obviously that will be priority number one.

[jon_dahl]

The biggest problem with conspiracy theories is the cover-up. I don't deny that governments are capable of lying and doing terrible things (cf. early CIA). But I can't accept the idea that a massive conspiracy would stay secret. Any of the hundreds of conspirators involved would be an instant millionaire celebrity for breaking the news.

[brazzy]

Well, you're officially a self-admitted idiot. Congratulations. That website is a hoot. A self-proclaimed photographer who doesn't know what scatter light is.

[hnriot]

Haha, this is because you talk to the conspiracy nuts, so obviously you're going to find 90% of them react that way. It's called selective bias, or in this case.

Obviously your an idiot and get your information from conspiracy wackos and the x-files.

[TheTruthIsHere]

Exactly! This is the very reason OP never meet anyone disagreeing with his view of the world.

[kissickas]

Well I appreciate you providing an alternate point of view, but I'm afraid I don't agree that reading a few sketchy websites doesn't mean you "did your research" at all.

I'm mainly commenting to apologize that some of your comments are now dead- while I could understand if this one were, your grandchild comments expressing interest in other peoples' (non-conspiracy) arguments are dead which I think goes against the whole point of commenting here, especially when child comments saying "your an idiot" get upvoted.

[derleth]

> 9/11 was an inside job.

Indeed. The USPS did it with explosive furniture. If you disagree with me, you're NWO COINTELPRO M-O-U-S-E.

http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2008/07/craziest-theory...

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=476254