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by StopDisinfo910 360 days ago
> I’ve never seen how people operate complex infrastructures outside of a cloud

That’s your issue. If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

I have the same issue with the junior we hire nowadays. They have been so brain washed that the idea that the cloud is the solution and they can’t manage without them that they have no idea of what to do instead of reaching for them.

> I imagine that using VPS I would have a dedicated dev. ops acting as a gatekeeper to the infrastructure or I’ll get a poorly integrated and insecure mess.

You just describe having a real mess after this.

> I imagine a dev. ops would be quite annoyed by such back and forth.

I would be quite annoyed by such back and forth even on the cloud. I don’t even want to think about the costs of changing so often.

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>That’s your issue. If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

While I admit lack of experience at scale I had my share of Linux admin experience to understand how it could be done. My point is that building a comparable environment without cloud would be much more than just 500 LoC. If you have relevant experience please share.

>I would be quite annoyed by such back and forth even on the cloud. I don’t even want to think about the costs of changing so often.

In cloud it took 1-2 weeks per iteration with several months in between when we have been using the solution. One person did it all, nobody in the team even noticed. Being able to iterate like this is valuable.