[mahkeiro]

They don’t care about the regime, they only want it to be aligned with the US and Israel. The Saudi absolute monarchy regime (something that is way worst than the Iranian one) that is directly coming from middle ages, doesn’t get the same journalistic treatment in the US. Women rights in Iran are lightyears ahead of what is happening in Saudi Arabia. But who cares? Talking about Iran regime change only is pure hypocrisy when your best friend in the region can kill anyone by just deciding it.

[reissbaker]

Actually, Saudi Arabia doesn't beat woman to death for not wearing a hijab (although they're not great either). Saudi is ranked 56 on the Gender Inequality Index, whereas Iran is 113. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_Inequality_Index

[mahkeiro]

No but talking badly of the royal family will get you executed: https://cpj.org/2025/06/saudi-arabia-executes-journalist-tur...

[reissbaker]

You claimed "women's rights in Iran are lightyears ahead of Saudi Arabia."

And Iran executes plenty of journalists too.

[mahkeiro]

3 years ago Saudi Arabia set into its law (on the international women’s day) that a male relative always have control on a woman. A few years ago only, women were allowed to drive but as of today they are very few female drivers. But that’s not the point, the point is the hypocrisy to point at a political regime because he his not aligned with your views while having as a best friend the worst absolute monarchy.

[codethief]

> A few years ago only, women were allowed to drive but as of today they are very few female drivers.

Maybe. But overall Saudi Arabia has been undergoing pretty dramatic changes in recent years: Women can now drive, are no longer required to wear a hijab, are allowed to work, can meet with male friends/non-relatives without the police stopping them, etc. Yes, it's still a far cry from what women are allowed to do in western countries, and absolute change is still slow, but relatively speaking it's still quite impressive and gives me (and apparently people there) hope.

Source: I was in Saudi and talked to people.

[aaaja]

Did you talk to any Saudi women about this?

[reissbaker]

#56 vs #113. They're both bad, but one is worse, and famously murders women for showing their hair. And that's Iran.

[t-3]

You can find many videos of people walking around cities in Iran - not only are plenty of women not covering their hair, there's plenty of dyed hair too. Dress is a bit more conservative than western countries, but not by much, and women are obviously free - and feel safe - to leave the house unescorted. Iran has liberalized a lot compared to the post-revolutionary period.

[koevet]

Saudi Arabia has killed and dismembered a journalist in their own embassy in Istambul, Jamal Khashoggi.

[tbrownaw]

> They don’t care about the regime, they only want it to be aligned with the US and Israel.

So they want to either change the regime or change the regime, and don't much care which one?