[Cyph0n]

Forcing Iran into submission is not going be as easy as it was in Iraq.

One of the key reasons behind why Iraq fell so quickly is that Saddam made all the wrong moves leading up the invasion.

By that point, he had alienated every single potential ally (including Iran) - and virtually all states in the region were supportive of the invasion, regardless of their positions in public.

Not to mention that the invasion of Iraq was ultimately a failure anyways..

[abletonlive]

> By that point, he had alienated every single potential ally (including Iran)

It's so funny that you can't see the parallels

[Cyph0n]

Iran has been escalating reasonably, and is clearly acting as a sovereign state should. You can project all you want, but Saddam was playing another ballgame.

Unfortunately, international law means nothing these days, so it might have been a mistake to not establish deterrence sooner.

Regardless, Iran is not going to be as easy to topple as some people might think.

[anigbrowl]

You should talk. How much of a coalition do you think the US can assemble right now, after alienating numerous allies over the last 6 months?

[abletonlive]

Europe is now helping out in Ukraine a lot and buying thousands of Raytheon missiles to do so.

Come back to reality friend, nobody is alienated.

[anigbrowl]

I'm not he one adrift from reality. Europe has always been helping out a lot, more than the US, because Ukraine has been politically aligned with the EU for well over a decade. It's the US that has been scaling back its involvement.