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by valenterry 363 days ago
I understand your feeling. There are many magical frameworks like e.g. Spring that do these things and it's super hard to figure out what's going on.

The solution is usually to have an even better language. One, where the typesystem is so powerful, that such hacks are not necessary. Unfortunately, that also means you have to learn that typesystem to be productive in language, and you have to learn it more or less upfront - which is not something that Google wanted for golang due to the turnover.
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liampulles 362 days ago
I don't think it's so much a question of a better language so much as a different language. There are obviously tradeoffs one makes with all language designs.

What might be interesting is a language ecosystem, where one can write parts of a system in one language and other parts in another. The BEAM and JVM runtimes allow for this but I don't think I've seen any good examples of different languages commingling and playing to their strengths.

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valenterry 362 days ago
Well, what I meant is that there is some language feature missing. So either the language gets "better" in the sense that this feature is being added, or a different language is chosen, that is already "better" in that the feature already exists. So yeah.

> The BEAM and JVM runtimes allow for this but I don't think I've seen any good examples of different languages commingling and playing to their strengths.

Probably because the runtime is always the lowest common denominator. That being said, there are lots of tools e.g. written in Scala but then being used by Java, such as Akka or Spark. And the other way around of course.

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