[pxc]

Android doesn't succeed at what free software developers (or users) care about. The present-day reality of Android is a huge, depressing disappointment to anyone who gives a shit about software freedom.

It's a TiVo-ized spyware delivery platform, absolute riddled with (often non-removeable, often installed by entities other than the user) badware.

Android is an abject, dismal failure when it comes to very basic things like empowering users.

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>Android doesn't succeed at what free software developers (or users) care about.

I disagree, unless you mean that they care about having there OS copy how UNIX worked 50 years ago.

>It's a TiVo-ized spyware delivery platform

Boiling things down to a pile of buzzwords is not productive especially when they aren't accurate.

"TiVo-ized": Android fully supports a user unlockable bootloader. Such a term doesn't even refer to the operating system, but to the device / bootloader, so it doesn't make sense to describe Android like that.

"spyware delivery": I assume this means that it includes a package manager that can install apps automatically. Several other Linux operating systems support that too. That isn't unique.

>absolute riddled with (often non-removeable, often installed by entities other than the user) badware

It is up to the vendor to pick what software they bundle with the OS. It's not inherent that "badware" has to be bundled.

Your criticisms of Android are not even with the operating system itself, but with downstream versions of it.

[yencabulator]

Ah, great! What hardware can I buy and where do I download the Android installer for it?

Android has made some very interesting technical decisions, and Linux workstations should implement something along pervasive sandboxing, for sure. The pretense that Android in itself is something anyone outside of large phone-manufacturing companies should (or are able to) deal with is a little silly.