[AIPedant]

"BSD crap," "deserves to be punished"...

There's also an element of "Linus Torvalds is an antisocial jerk, and he's a genius, therefore if I am an antisocial jerk I must be doing genius-level work." In particular, it's a lot easier to attack someone with empty insults than it is to defend your own position with substantive thought.

[agumonkey]

is antisocial appropriate for linus ? I thought he was semi hot headed and thin skinned when it comes to quality, not necessary harmful for no reason

[mystraline]

The trend of 'savant but antisocial asshole' is not just a software thing.

Gordon Ramsay - "this food is fucking raw!" /throws food

We have sitcom dramas like House glorifying the same thing.

[gbear605]

Notably, Ramsay is mostly doing that as an act, so it’s really just the same thing as House. If you watch his UK shows, or see some of the other stuff he’s put out, he doesn’t bother with that whole antisocial performance.

[agumonkey]

but real question, is that antisocial ? to me antisocial is much more toxic and unrelated to perfectionism

an antisocial ramsay would just throw your stuff no matter what even you did well, for the sake of messing with your head

[stonemetal12]

You can be a perfectionist, and not throw a hissy fit when things aren't the way you want.

>an antisocial ramsay would just throw your stuff

A social Ramsy would refuse to eat your food, but not throw it at you or have a giant baby fit about it. Of course no one would watch him on TV if he was calm and collected.

[willhslade]

American tv.

[AIPedant]

I think you're confusing antisocial personality disorder with antisocial behavior. I am not diagnosing Torvalds with anything, just describing his behavior.

[agumonkey]

hmm yeah I thought these were nearly the same, i'd describe linus as an edgy angry perfectionnist (i'm less angry but i understand the strict spirit)

[pbhjpbhj]

I mean, he deserves to get upset if a professional preparing food serves raw chicken. I guess the programmer equivalent would be not sanitising input, or not even knowing what an injection attack is.

[pydry]

The Linus rants Ive seen are pretty much the equivalent of a chef undercooking chicken.

[yencabulator]

Notably, Linus rants at his sous chefs, not at the guy washing dishes. "You are expected to know better" is the theme.

"I want to trust your judgement, so I can delegate decision making to you" has always been his poorly-delivered message.

[scott_w]

True, the times I see him go fully mental, it’s pretty justified. Stuff like out off date food, uncooked food, vermin in the kitchen, unclean, etc.

This is the kind of stuff that can make people seriously ill and kills multiple people every year. This isn’t even lack of skill, it’s pure laziness.

[SecretDreams]

> "Linus Torvalds is an antisocial jerk, and he's a genius, therefore if I am an antisocial jerk I must be doing genius-level work."

There's way too much of this in general. People use a talented individual with problematic behaviors to justify their own problematic behaviors. So many talented ICs that are absolute dickheads to work with.