[ljm]

I’ve been running k3s on hetzner for over 2 years now with 100% uptime.

In fact, it was so low maintenance that I lost my SSH key for the master node and I had to reprovision the entire cluster. Took about 90 mins including the time spent updating my docs. If it was critical I could have got that down to 15 mins tops.

20€/mo for a k8s cluster using k3s, exclusively on ARM, 3 nodes 1 master, some storage, and a load balancer with automatic dns on cloudflare.

[busterarm]

People talking about the maintenance pain of running Kubernetes have actual customers and are not running their whole infrastructure on 20€/mo.

Anecdotes like these are not helpful.

I have thousands of services I'm running on ~10^5 hosts and all kinds of compliance and contractual requirements to how I maintain my systems. Maintenance pain is a very real table-stakes conversation for people like us.

Your comment is like pure noise in our space.

[abrookewood]

That's an incredibly self-centred comment. People use Kubernetes for a whole range of reasons - not all of them will align with your own needs.

[15155]

> People talking about the maintenance pain of running Kubernetes have actual customers and are not running their whole infrastructure on 20€/mo.

You're right: they're using managed Kubernetes instead - which covers 90% of the maintenance complexity.

[busterarm]

We are, and it's not 90%. Maybe 75%.

But nowhere near the reductive bullshit comment of "there's no maintenance because my $20/mo stack says so".

[verst]

How often do you perform version upgrades? Patching of the operation system of the nodes or control plane etc? Things quickly get complex if application uptime / availability is critical.

[Bombthecat]

Yeah, as soon as you got your helm charts and node installers.

Installing is super fast.

We don't do backup of the cluster for example for that reason ( except databases etc) we just reprovision the whole cluster.

[motorest]

> Yeah, as soon as you got your helm charts and node installers.

I believe there's no need to go that path for most applications. A simple kustomize script already handles most of the non-esoteric needs.

Sometimes things are simple of that's how we want them to be.