[taosx]

I really dislike when people don't see this. They try to cut 10 grams of CO2 per day while other industries (shipping, aviation, rails) produce hundreds of tons per day and even this transportation modes are less that 20% with most CO2 produced mainly being in energy production and used by industry.

[SV_BubbleTime]

I think it’s because this line of rationality, leads to people to realize how ridiculous some of the conservation efforts are.

Plastic bags, paper straws (wrapped in plastic), most realities of recycling, vehicle selections, etc.

Leads to a lot of unpopular things.

[cmrdporcupine]

Plastic bags and papers straws is not about CO2 emissions and I wish people would stop repeating this like it's some "gotcha", it's about landfill and natural area pollution and damage to wildlife and natural areas, and that's how it's always been talked about by policy people who have advocated on this stuff.

Have you walked a beach in the last decade?

[taosx]

This makes sense and I'm with you, people that are polluting beaches and natural areas should face harder punishments. That being said I'm missing plastic straws for drinking cold coffee.

[cmrdporcupine]

Nothing stopping you from carrying your own reusable straw around with you.

Finally, most of the (local, not even thinking about the developing world) pollution is not deliberate. It blows in from other places, usually. I live rural and I'm continually picking up plastic garbage from my ditch or back forest or fields that blows in from the nearby highway and roads, especially after garbage pickup day.

Production needs to be severely curtailed.

[curious_cat_163]

Rituals define a school of thought (or a religion). These are rituals of folks who want to prevent catastrophe through conservation. To each their own.

Ultimately, individual habits do add up. But with climate, one would be hard pressed to find evidence that conservation is the path forward. It does not work, unfortunately.

[tln]

Sure, but that's all accounted for in per capita numbers.