[iLoveOncall]

> Everybody in the world has freedom of speech, it is a human right

This is absolutely not true.

There isn't a single country in the world with absolute freedom of speech to begin with. And even if we take the very permissive freedom of speech of the US, it is matched by only very few countries, even in the west.

As a simple example, here's a map of the countries where it's at least an offence to insult the head of state: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Lese-maj...

[immibis]

The US doesn't even have free speech, as we can see from this event happening right now. Many European and European-style countries have weaker constitutional protections, but stronger actual protections in reality, than the USA. The USA's constitution significantly differs from the USA's reality.

[ranger_danger]

The US absolutely has free speech, please don't spread misinformation.

[immibis]

No, it doesn't - it's illegal to say we should boycott Israeli products.

[ranger_danger]

According to who? Please cite a specific court case where a judge ruled that calling for the boycott of Israeli products was deemed illegal.

If such a ruling was later appealed and eventually overturned, then of course that would not count. But a judge ruling on a case is technically the only way something can be considered provably "illegal" in the US.

I realize that you want to believe there are certain inalienable rights that somehow no longer exist, but I do not believe that to be the case. The courts exist for a reason, and just because people are sometimes arrested or charged with things that are not actually legal, that doesn't mean it won't later get thrown out in court, and it doesn't mean that your rights have disappeared.

Even if all of that did happen, such a case would most likely be appealed to the Supreme Court and ruled unconstitutional.

[majorchord]

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-judge-orders-rel...