[alightsoul]

With vibe coding, I am under the impression that the only thing that matters for vibe coders is whether the output is good enough in the moment to fullfill a desire. For companies going AI first that's how it seems to be done. I see people in other places and those people have lost interest in the "how"

[birn559]

Which is fine in general. It has been a selling point for SQL or C, for example. What I wanted to say is that for AI output becoming a replacement for code, a necessary requirement is that the output becomes deterministic. While LLMs provide that technically, I am not sure the "culture" that has evolved the technology will lead to product that provide determinism.