[grafmax]

> Not only would it be a horrible thing to do and of no military value, they simply don't blame the people of Iran for the IRGC's actions.

So then it’s remarkable that it’s nevertheless occurring.

I posted this elsewhere ITT but the parent comment is now flagged so it may be difficult to find. I post it below.

> Shock, fear in Tehran after Israel bombs residential, military areas

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/13/shock-fear-in-tehra...

> Today, Iran is once again under heavy bombardment with Israeli air strikes targeting residential areas, civilian buildings, hospitals, media offices and military sites.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-iran-mideast-war-news-06-1...

> Health authorities also reported that 1,277 were wounded, without distinguishing between military officials and civilians.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-attack-iran-civili...

There are countless reports of this nature.

[warbaker]

"without distinguishing between military officials and civilians"

Israel has air supremacy over Tehran. The facts don't support your narrative that Israel is flattening Tehran.

[grafmax]

“Flattening” implies damage more widespread than I have described. My statement, sourced from numerous credible news organizations, which I have linked, is that Israel has attacked residential areas. As for Israel’s air superiority over Tehran (also an established fact as far as I can tell) I have no idea how you think that is supposed to be a rebuttal of anything I’ve said.

[bawolff]

I think you could reasonably say that there is credible information that Israel has attacked targets that are near or in residential areas (at the very least they seem to have done targeted assinations of high level military officials in their homes).

However that's different than saying they are targeting residential areas themselves. That's the part that i think the other poster is objecting to. Air supperiority matters here because it means Israel has the ability to target basically anything they want (so you could assume things not targeted are by choice and not lack of ability).

If total wounded (not even killed, just wounded) of both millitary and civilians is ~1200, that kind of suggests that Israel is not targeting residential buildings in general, since just a few apartment building would likely have more casualties than that.

Not to say this is iron clad reasoning. Maybe Iran is downplaying casualties for propaganda purposes (otoh i think they would be splashing photos of destroyed residential buildings everywhere if Israel was destroying them in general, as that makes for great PR). I don't really know, but there is enough doubt here that I don't think its confirmed Israel is targeting residential areas in general.

[grafmax]

Israel government justified its genocide of Gaza with its supposedly targeted strikes of Hamas. This narrative has lost all credibility. And we have seen with Gaza what effect “PR” has on stopping the atrocities committed there - none.

The Israeli government views non combatants affected as expendable targets with zero value. This is what we are seeing with the strikes on residential areas. It’s not that they are “flattening” Tehran in the initial stages of war, but that Israel military policy so disregards the lives of non combatants that attacks on residential areas are justified in its view.

Thus, the notion that the Iranian people are supposed to unite with the Israeli government to overthrow the “common enemy” (the Iranian government) is absurd; the Israeli war machine should be viewed as having zero regard for the Iranian people; they are expendable as long as Israeli military objectives are furthered; that is an established pattern now and that is what is evidenced by the strikes against residential areas considered against the backdrop of the atrocities in Gaza.

[bawolff]

> This is what we are seeing with the strikes on residential areas. It’s not that they are “flattening” Tehran in the initial stages of war, but that Israel military policy so disregards the lives of non combatants that attacks on residential areas are justified in its view.

The death toll in Iran is not really consistent with that. (At least based on what has been reported so far. Admittedly there is much uncertainty)

[grafmax]

The death toll reflects the early stages of war not the choice of targets. And we know that the targets include residential areas.

[trustinmenowpls]

The narrative that there is a genocide in gaza has lost all credibility. The gazan population has grown since the war started, its completely ludicrous to claim a genocide while the population is literally growing. People have been making claims of genocide since Israel took over in '67, it never made any sense then and it makes even less sense today. People who make such claims should be seen for what they are: charlatans and liars looking to discredit zionists and jews everywhere.

[g8oz]

You are replying to the alleged false narrative with a rather thin Zionist talking point of your own. The legal definition of genocide does not require total population numbers to go down. The deliberate systemic slaughter and use of starvation are enough on their own.