[jekwoooooe]

Yes exactly what I’m trying to say. It’s not settled at all. We should not ban anything outright without evidence HOWEVER we should not prescribe things without evidence. The left was suppressing research that went against their politics just as much as the right is now for the same reason. They both suck, and both sides are saying the same thing to each other. It’s a circus watching this as a centrist.

[ofcourseyoudo]

No, that's not "exactly what you're trying to say". You asserted incorrectly that the UK findings were that gender care does not help at all. By any genuine reading of the study it absolutely doesn't say that. This is intellectually disingenous.

[anonymous_user9]

“Just as much”? Certainly not. Even if there was total censorship of studies critical of trans healthcare, that would be a tiny fraction of what the trump administration has already cut.

What in the world makes you think that suppressing science is a “both sides” issue?

[ofcourseyoudo]

One piece of evidence is drastically reduced rates of suicide in children that get gender-affirming care. This has been shown in multiple studies and metastudies. That's enough for me.

[bobalob]

This is not actually true, see for instance: https://www.city-journal.org/article/aclu-attorney-confesses...

[01HNNWZ0MV43FF]

> they both suck

Can't speak for you but in my country the right is trying to kick poor people off of welfare.

It's under the guise of "balancing the budget" but it's done with fast cuts, no rolloff, no phase-out period. If they cared about the budget it would be done gradually. In my country the right wing is cruel. Bullies elected by a coalition of bullies and gullible folks and people who want revenge for imagined slights.

> It’s a circus watching this as a centrist.

If you think the left and the right are the same you need to watch closer bud