[x0x0]

Signal lagged so far in polish and features that getting friends and family to use it was doa. So I can choose to communicate with friends and family on the apps they use, or I make it very difficult for them to communicate with me.

That ends with them mostly not communicating with me, not with them switching apps.

[bdangubic]

don’t your friends and family have phone numbers? I have right now 12 active groups on my text messages. why on earth do you need “app”??! I am lost …

[x0x0]

Group messaging via sms is terrible. So is photo sharing.

[bdangubic]

all these are easy excuses… you are here on HN, probably some dope SWE doing amazing shit, I am sure you are more than capable of solving any “picture sharing” problem that is an issue with SMS.

[x0x0]

I am not capable of solving shitty downscaled image sharing; flakiness with mms message receipt (esp photos) both on tmobile and verizon; and even worse downscaled video sharing. Because those cannot be addressed by anyone but the telcos.

Nor the inability to add people to groups. sms doesn't have groups; it has pools of numbers. And it works terribly when, eg, one of you is traveling or living outside the US.

[brewdad]

You send the photo via mms. When there's that one great shot you really want to save, ask them to email it to you. This isn't nearly as hard as you make it out to be.

[bdangubic]

really? what are you missing, emojis by Kim Kardashian for $19.99 per month?

[closewith]

> I have right now 12 active groups on my text messages.

You're definitely in a minority. Most people send and receive zero non-MFA related SMS.

[vkou]

You're using a telephone to call and message people?

If you think that your phone provider isn't spying on you, I would like to cut you into an incredible, once-in-a-lifetime investment opportunity in some Louisiana waterfront property.

All I need is your phone number, mother's maiden name, ...

[bdangubic]

sure, NSA might be :) but not Meta…

[x0x0]

And China. And likely lots of other nations.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/chinese-hackers-stole-...

[bdangubic]

got no problems with China, their entire existence is not predicated on selling shit to people and fucking with our youth.

[mywrathacademia]

Signal can’t be trusted

[bdangubic]

I agree, I think you should just go with tried&true trusted apps made by guy who could not get laid in high school and is trying to compensate for that by fucking with you and all your loved ones that install his shitware on their phones :)