[affinepplan]

I've watched the video several times.

> Any average citizen would be arrested and detained.

yes, ICE thugs would probably behave equally lawlessly towards any civilian challenging them for a warrant. that doesn't make what happened less horrifying.

[zefalt]

Your choice of words reveals a lot. Don't manipulate words to serve your conclusion.

They are not "thugs". They are federal officers.

ICE did not behave "lawlessly". They are upholding federal law. In fact, it was Brad Lander who acted lawlessly.

This constant manipulation of words is tiring. I don't find what happened "horrifying" at all. Anyone impeding the law should face its consequences.

[affinepplan]

> They are not "thugs". They are federal officers.

are they? maybe they should identify themselves as such with names, badge numbers, and warrants?

> They are upholding federal law.

they clearly aren't given the number of court cases the Trump administration is rapidly losing related to its deportation activity.

> This constant manipulation of words is tiring

this constant sanewashing of cruelty is tiring. you should find it horrifying.

but I'm not going to go in circles with you. I hope you eventually look back on this part of your life with shame about your beliefs and who and what you defended.

[speakfreely]

> I hope you eventually look back on this part of your life with shame about your beliefs and who and what you defended.

I suspect his post will read as a calm and level-headed analysis 10-20 years from now. He showed no support or protest against any political policy.

[nagaiaida]

banal, even.

[affinepplan]

"banal" --- what a word to use !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eichmann_in_Jerusalem