[misiti3780]

I have had the exact opposite experience. I have been using FSD on HW3 for a few years and the latest version for me is much safer than me driving. I dont care about your opinions of him killing the brand, they are irrelevant. It's clear that the vision only approach will work, it may need more training data but it will get there. Good luck with your short!

Last I checked there were 35K fatal accidents in the US every year - if FSD can bring that down to 3.5K that will be an obvious win.

[gorpy7]

I used to try it for a few drives after each release then revert to driving myself. with the newest version i let it drive a lot- and i’m on the older hardware. Everyone likes to bemoan the lying but every corp lies, at least with Tesla you get to point the finger instead of yell at a faceless mass. and if it’s 15 years of lying and a well known political target, then at some point it’s not lying- it’s a feature. people need to take some personal responsibility. also, of course, every day that goes by without a fatality is another day that all the naysayers should capitulate- but we won’t hear it. time and pressure will solve fsd sooner than later, i doubt there is a soul in here that doubts it, so there is also /that/ clock that is ticking.

Cars, one of life’s current greatest killers. by accidents and by pollution-hmmm, let’s run down that evil dude!

edited: made on writing mistakes