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by Aloisius 5040 days ago
One thing to recognize about San Francisco is that the tech scene is actually spread out across the whole peninsula, not just San Francisco.

While San Francisco has been experiencing a considerable renaissance (my last three companies were HQed in SF), quite a bit of the tech scene is located 30-40 miles South in Santa Clara County.

San Francisco is physically smaller than Manhattan and has about half the population. The rest of the peninsula is pretty suburban. Even in areas of SF that approach Manhattan for density, it is not NYC and it is not trying to be. If you like hyper-competitive people or any hint of pretension, look elsewhere.

That said, yes, SF's startup scene is mecca. Really. The tech density is high enough that you will see tech people literally everywhere, money flows liberally and is well over critical mass for early adopters of technology.

The biggest cons to living here are:

* As a startup, hiring is hard because the best of the best often want to start a company, have started a company or do consulting for startups. I import a lot of people from across the country.

* Microclimates mean going from a t-shirt to a coat with a twenty minute drive.

* Rent is expensive. Maybe not Manhattan expensive, but no less competitive.

* A car are necessary if you live in the peninsula because of how spread out it is.

* You'll be in an environment where there are probably 3+ other startups doing your exact same idea.

Disclosure: I'm from SF.

2 comments

Thanks for this reply. That was sort of the vision I had of the tech scene so I'm glad that I wan't too far from the truth. I'm not a big fan of hyper-competitive people so that's a plus. Hopefully the community out there is more, well, "communal" and tries to help everyone succeed.

Hiring in NYC is also very difficult at least from my experience from working for other startups here. Finding qualified candidates who aren't already happily employed is difficult.

I've actually heard the opposite from some friends about the necessity of a car out there. I guess that will really just come down to how I spend my time and where I need to travel.

My startup isn't unique and has a bunch of competition already so that really doesn't bother me too much. Bring it on! (Ok, maybe I'm a little competitive...)

Car: not necessary between SF and the East Bay. Necessary if you are in the South Bay. There are many Zipcar parking lots though, so I don't think you need to buy.
> that the tech scene is actually spread out across the whole peninsula,

Is it? I was under the impression that it started around Redwood City or Menlo Park and went south from there... and that there was also a lot in San Francisco.

Are there startups around, say, San Mateo?

Wikia was in San Mateo for a few years before moving to SF. Cheap place to bootstrap, easy access to SF and the valley. Not convenient for people in the east bay, but otherwise not bad.
there are quite a few in san mateo, marketo (late growth startup) is in San Mateo for instance.