[jedberg]

Do you think the police understand this nuance? Especially since most of the traffic that will go through there is probably copyright infringement?

They'll just see tracker and assume it's illegal.

[SXX]

> Especially since most of the traffic that will go through there is probably copyright infringement?

Copyright infinging materials dont go "though" trackers. Trackers only keep torrent hashes and lists of peers.

[jedberg]

I'm well aware of how trackers and torrents work. But again, do you think law enforcement understands the nuance of that?

Also the government and private companies have argued in the past that the hashes and lists of peers is inducement and enablement for copyright infringement.

[jeroenhd]

So do torrent websites like the pirate bay. That doesn't protect pirates from getting sued to hell and back or even receiving prison sentences from the court.

[geon]

Torrent sites also keep metadata. Often detailed, telling exactly what media is getting its copyright infringed.

[dahrkael]

I would argue the pirate bay was an index apart from a tracker, and indexes is what gets you in trouble mostly

[Qwertious]

Tell them it's for training a corporate AI model, then.

[bmacho]

It's okay to watch pirated movies if you sell fanart based on them later

[hungryhobbit]

Do you think the police are actually policing the internet?

Even if you didn't mean your local police, and meant a national body like the FBI, the truth is they focus on other crimes (eg. child abuse), and even then they are woefully unable to handle even most of those crimes.

The vast, vast majority of copyright enforcement comes from copyright holders ... not the internet copyright police.

[jedberg]

Of course not. But first a copyright holder tells the police, and then the police enforce it.

The police rarely find crimes on their own -- they are almost always acting on a request from someone else.

[swat535]

Nitpick but police follow the courts, not the copyright holders.

[vintermann]

Traffic doesn't "go through there", that's the whole point of P2P. All a tracker does is let people find each other.

[jedberg]

Traffic still goes through it. A seeder attaches and says "I am here and have these hashes". The a leecher connects and says "who has these hashes".

So yes, data "goes through it". Do you think law enforcement understands the nuance of metadata vs actual data?