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by potato3732842 371 days ago
>I don't agree with this. Not hitting pedestrians should not just be an afterthought.

You're disagreeing with something I didn't say. There's a difference between afterthought and the primary initiator of the stop in a situation like this.

>Of course the car should recognize the stop sign, but there are cases in which stop signs are obstructed or missing, and in those cases pedestrians should still not be hit by a car.

The surprise pedestrian test is one that any vehicle can be made to fail by sheer physics. Avoiding errant pedestrians like in the video will likely only come as a byproduct of better situational behavior by self driving vehicles. The overwhelming majority of drivers know to ignore the speed limit if the situation is rife with pedestrians or otherwise sus and are generally fine with missing/obstructed stop signs. I don't know what route self driving software will take to approximate such behavior but it likely will need to.

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> The overwhelming majority of drivers know to ignore the speed limit if the situation is rife with pedestrians or otherwise sus and are generally fine with missing/obstructed stop signs.

This sentence makes me want to cry. Sure, I may know drivers treat speed limits as minimum acceptable speed at best, but seeing it unironically spelled out like this hurts.

Please, it's just two simple words: 1) speed 2) limit. L I M I T. It's the maximum allowable speed. No, it's not the minimum speed, no it's not the target speed, no, it's not "more of a guideline than anything". You are not allowed to go faster.

It says nothing about a minimum speed. It says nothing about what speed you should drive at. All it does is limit the maximum speed. Repeat after me, it's a speed L I M I T.

Just kidding though, I know even speaking like I would to a 5 year old won't do it, this mentality runs far too deep. There's no hope.

> The surprise pedestrian test is one that any vehicle can be made to fail by sheer physics.

There's different degrees of failure as well, did the Tesla try to brake beforehand or apply brakes after hitting the doll?