[fsckboy]

>produces effects similar to the semisynthetic drug LSD, which is used to treat conditions like depression, post-traumatic stress disorder and addiction

yes, such incredible maturity, didn't even mention that these are not the reasons that most LSD is sold, bought, and consumed... although, "self-medication" probably does adhere pretty well.

[worik]

>...these are not the reasons that most LSD is sold, bought, and consumed

Yes

To be clear most LSD users, who've done LSD for years, do it for fun.

Once you've polished the windows, it is fun to go back and look at the view...

[NewJazz]

For me the last time I took a trip I was alone for most of the trip and I cried a lot and my heart felt physically pained. I felt sorry for my heart that it had to keep beating and could not rest. It was a really challenging trip. I haven't been on another trip since.

[candiddevmike]

Set and setting?

[NewJazz]

If setting includes the people you are with, or lack thereof, then yeah.

[hollerith]

That would be good subject matter for a poem.

[worik]

> I haven't been on another trip since

Good choice.

It is not fun, unless it is

[LoganDark]

I am a frequent LSD user and I do it for fun and healing.

I don't know about PTSD (although it did help me after I got hit by a truck, and also after I hit my head and nearly died), but it helps me get through stressful times. It also helps me become productive again when I feel like I'm too burnt out to work. I don't know how exactly this happens, but I assume it's something like giving me enough tunnel vision to forget about background/subconscious anxieties.

[balamatom]

>but I assume it's something like giving me enough tunnel vision to forget about background/subconscious anxieties

counterpoint: it might be said that one's "tunnel vision" is made out of anxieties pushed to the background, disrupting the default mode network allows the person to consciously process them. ofc i can't say whether this tracks with your experience

[LoganDark]

It pushes more than just anxieties to the background. During the peak of an LSD trip, I can be so distractible that I can barely keep more than one thing in my head at a time, and it's incredibly easy for any new thought to overwrite everything prior. I do know that spending some time in that state of mind does tend to help me. With that said, I don't think I can speak much on the default mode network because I haven't developed an intuition on how that affects me.

[balamatom]

i do now realize i've been unclear in my previous post; this "tunnel vision" we both speak of (hopefully we're indeed referring to the same phenomenon!) is, in my view, the culturally expected default day-to-day state of the neurotypical mind; as in, one is expected to have acquired these mandatory blinders early on, regardless if they're actually harmful to individual health and collective flourishing

it completely makes sense that a person with neurophysiological parameters that result in adhd diagnosis might experience these effects differently (different valence to same phenomenon; or, entirely different phenomenon from same preconditions). either way, imo the important thing (confirmed by what you say about the hyper-distractible state which you experience) is for one to spend as much time as needed in the headspace that is appropriate to their neurobiological makeup, rather than that headspace which other people want one to be in as if it's any of their goddam business.

ofc not to be taken that reaching "the personally good headspace" is trivial; a core part of "the blinders" is the assumption that no other stable non-pathological mind-states exist in the first place! (the premise of neurotypical supremacy?) hence the utility of altered states which demonstrate the opposite and thus provide the introspector with a basis for comparison

thanks for sharing your experiences!

[LoganDark]

> i do now realize i've been unclear in my previous post; this "tunnel vision" we both speak of (hopefully we're indeed referring to the same phenomenon!) is, in my view, the culturally expected default day-to-day state of the neurotypical mind; as in, one is expected to have acquired these mandatory blinders early on, regardless if they're actually harmful to individual health and collective flourishing

I'm not super sure what "blinders" you're speaking of. I don't think it's expected for a neurotypical person to only be able to keep ~one thought in their head at a time. Although I do notice a lot of the time people find it weird that I remember things that were besides a point; maybe that's what you're talking about.

> neurophysiological parameters that result in adhd diagnosis

Weird trivia, but it's really fucking weird that dysgraphia predicts an ADHD diagnosis. I seem to have dysgraphia, and lo and behold[0]:

> Individuals with dysgraphia often have difficulties in Executive Functions (e.g., planning and organizing).

What the fuck lmao.

> a core part of "the blinders" is the assumption that no other stable non-pathological mind-states exist in the first place!

This is a totally different thing; this is intentional rejection of new ideas, and basically rejection of everyone who isn't the same.

> thanks for sharing your experiences!

Of course~

[0]: https://ldaamerica.org/disabilities/dysgraphia

[esseph]

Do you have or suspect you have ADHD?

[LoganDark]

I definitely have ADHD.

[gavinray]

> "Once you've polished the windows, it is fun to go back and look at the view..."

On the other hand:

"If you get the message, hang up the phone."

- Alan Watts

[nkrisc]

> Once you've polished the windows, it is fun to go back and look at the view...

I spent a long time trying to decide if you were referencing licking the windows, or something more poetic. I decided to let both interpretations occupy my mind, as it seemed greater than the sum of its parts.

[worik]

Huxley