[oxygen_crisis]

I thought the touch bar was even worse than the butterfly keys...

I put off upgrading my personal MacBook for years after work issued me a MacBook with the touch bar. Such a usability nightmare for the sake of eye candy. That was a long seven years.

[encom]

You'd rather go 7 years without upgrading, than buy a computer without an apple on it?

[oxygen_crisis]

There was a Lenovo and an ASUS and an Acer in between but those all went in the graveyard pile before their second year was up and I had to keep resorting to the 2011 Macbook.

And that's counting the extra ~year I got out of the Lenovo after having to replace the fans.

Having user serviceable parts is nice but having parts that last 14 years is better. If there was a brand that did both, that's what I'd buy.

[FirmwareBurner]

I can't concur. Growing up poor, I've only owned the cheapest Acers and HPs and none of them ever died on me. They're still at my parents place chugging along.

Later I switched to Lenovo when I got money and still no issues. Meanwhile all my mates with 2016-2018 era Macbooks have had endless issues, that they swore off ever buying Apple.

Anecdotal stories can swing in both directions, that's not proof of anything.

[bigyabai]

Hey, at least Apple hedged their bet on the future needing emoji keyboards.